Rumour: Looming PS4 cycle was real reason for Harrison’s departure from Sony

I take these stories with the pinch of salt they are intended to be taken with. One important point though – this is the sort of story which helps separate this site from more traditional gaming sites like EG. I wouldn’t expect EG to report this sort of thing without the back-up and due diligence Shatner suggests, I do expect a site like this to post stuff they feel is credible without it though. That is the sort of site this is.

oooh…

heated conflict!

How interesting… This is good reading actually. Better than the foundationless sensationalist story which started it!

lol.

In your opinion. Which is even less valid than the point of view or statement in this article.

Are you starting to smell what you shovellin’ yet? Or do you really need diagrams?

Accountability need only be acknowledged if the statement is proved to be false. Also, accountability is only relevant in this context if VG247 tells the reader that a) it is a certainty and b) the source originates from within the company itself.

However, none of those are present here.

Again, it’s simple English language, simple logic and moreover simple comprehension.

Shatner, if anyone’s digging their heels in on their corner, it’s you

Yeah. Funny that. When I ask why I should be expected to believe something that doesn’t make a lot of sense and is free of substance and am then given statements that are evasive, dismissive and lacking in objectivity, for some reason it doesn’t suddenly make me think my initial feelings were inappropriate.

And, if you’re the Retroid I think you are, then I’m pretty certain I’ve little reason to worry about your view on these matters.

Dr.Damn gets it. Everyone gets it. Bar one, solitary figure.

What a shame.

“When I ask why I should be expected to believe something ”

You’re not. You’re free to do as you please. Like everyone else in the world.

Welcome to a free-thinking democracy. We’ve been around for a few hundred years now. Glad you could join us.

Accountability need only be acknowledged if the statement is proved to be false. Also, accountability is only relevant in this context if VG247 tells the reader that a) it is a certainty and b) the source originates from within the company itself.

Again, it’s simple English language, simple logic and moreover simple comprehension.

I mentioned accountability and evasiveness. You seem to be talking about one whilst practicing the other.

Surely it’d just be simpler to answer questions than wriggle and writhe and keep finding interesting sounding ways as to why you don’t have to answer questions you don’t like the sound of. I wonder if you’d tolerate that sort of attitude from the people that you speak to professionally.

You only seem to like responding to people that already fit your predetermined view. I’m questioning what’s being written and instead of treating that maturely the usual suspect have drawn their wagons round in a defensive circle and executed the usual tired ways of trying to dispatch the one who won’t bleat with the rest of the herd.

If free-thinking democracy is your current line of defense it sounds very nice and mature. What a shame you’ve chosen to execute such a stance by belittling and dismissing the free thinkers rather than the ones that go along with whatever they read without question. Seems conveniently hypocritical to me.

Good to see you resorting to insults. Must mean I’m hitting a nerve.

And ‘which’ Retroid do you think I am? O_o

I’m merely pointing out that it’s being reported as a rumour, nothing more. If it was being reported as “AH! SEE! *FACT*” then I’d actually agree on that point. Just not about anonymous sources being inherently untrustworthy.

Multiple Retroids FTW!

BAN HAMMER!

Everyone (including me) must be banned immediately for hilarious consequences!

/hacks site

And, Retroid, I’m merely pointing out that this rumour has far more bullshit than substance to it.

But, apparently, that’s not a valid opinion as, even though it’s been heavily substantiated and seconded by some other commentators, this “rumour” isn’t allowed to be considered as bullshit. Some have gone as far to say that it “can’t possibly” be bullshit.

Again. The people posting the rumour only seem happy to have people believe it without question. The people questioning the rumour and practicing some free-thinking democracy aren’t treated very democratically at all.

It’d be funny if it weren’t so fucking pathetic.

I’m off to re-read Animal Farm and have a bacon sandwich. I’m bored of watching morriss dig another hole for him and this site.

Apparently! But then I’ve had messages over live saying things like “Not seen you lately on the JRPG.com (whatever) forum! Where’ve you been?” when I’ve never bloody been there in the first place.

I haven’t insulted you at all. I’ve talked down to you, yes. But that’s only because nothing you’ve said so far has deserved any other kind of response.

Play the victim card if you like, it becomes you.

Anyway, all your questions have been answered but I guess you’re too bust typing your next monologue about something else that you really have no idea as to what you’re talking about or any kind of experience with, to even read what’s being said.

Cherry-picking quotes and then basing your next argument around that issue is old and tired. You’ll have to do better than that here.

“The people posting the rumour only seem happy to have people believe it without question.”

Where does it say that?

Read. Think. Post.

Three easy steps.

I’ll be questioning the validity of this rumour on my own. I’ve not blindly believed any rumour in the gaming press since the 80s, particularily from a single source.

Hey, I think this is all a strom in a tea cup. VG247, the way I see it is a struggling blog, trying to find an angle and its own identity in a sea of blogs. This is even more the situation if it’s trying to be profitable.

It’s a site that’s trying to stay away from the fanboy rages that frequent other sites, but I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that it seems to be coming to terms with the fact that flame bait and console war posts are the only things that generate any really substantial amount of traffic.

To be honest Shatner, you might be better of showing a great deal more cynicism when it comes to these sort of stories.

I mean, lets face it. VG247 has just got a link from Kotaku with this one story and probably generated another 2-3000 hits today from a short paragraph about Sony.

I’d expect a whole load more of these ‘an anonimous source’ stories in the future.

This is getting a bit out of control now. Shame, was a nice argument before.

It would appear that Shatner with a day off work is a dangerous thing indeed.

“struggling blog” lol

“It’s a site that’s trying to stay away from the fanboy rages that frequent other sites, but I’ve noticed over the last few weeks that it seems to be coming to terms with the fact that flame bait and console war posts are the only things that generate any really substantial amount of traffic.”

Yes, it’s all contrived.

“Yes, it’s all contrived.”

Yeah, tell me about it!

Shatner, I am loving the fact that you face this article head on with baseless unsubstantiated criticism when thats exactly what you are getting your panties in a bunch about.

Shatner loves an argument, you have made that perfectly clear, we all get it. Maybe for your next trick it would be a refreshing change for you to actually agree with someone or better yet dont say anything at all. I am sure you will agree that people who anonymously post on message boards with nothing but worthless drivel just because they know they can, is the lowest of the low?

The article in question was there for you to read and to mull over in your own mind and then you can choose whether to believe the article or not, it isnt for you to choose for everyone else whether they believe it or not or even try to disparage the article so that others are less likely to believe it. The sheer amount of articles I have seen you post in on this site beggars belief, you must have better things to do than waste everyones time?

Everytime someone replies to what you write, whether its one line or a few paragraphs you respond with useless unrelated words that dont directly address anything in particular, I am of the opinion that you need a few more years writing message board talkbacks before you get the hang of it. This is just my opinion/criticism of your posts, so no flaming now.

Pat rarely posts ‘rumours’ at all, so I trust him to do proper background checks when he does do so. I’m sure if he was looking to post unsubstantiated stories designed to attract traffic, he would choose a far juicier topic than this one.

As it is, the few site-exclusive rumours he’s posted so far have checked out – the in-game XMB and custom soundtracks for PS3 for example.

/group hug

I’m still wanting to know which Retroid I am

/Confused

“Minor individual snipes aside, I’m fairly impressed that you guys are managing to have a half-decent adult discussion on this. I guess that means the Eurogamer ‘massive’ hasn’t invaded yet?”

Just Shatner, I’m afraid.

“Then stop publishing bullshit. Take some accountability for what your site publishes instead of suggesting that if someone questions what you do that they are wrong to do so.”

Questioning someone is fine. Rambling on for a dozen posts that could fill an entire book is just moronic and makes you look stupid, especially seeing as the only point you ever seem to have when you post is “I’m right and you’re an idiot”

“I’ve seen absolutely no effort to respond to my concerns about this article (one of many originating from “highly placed” anonymous sources that get published here) and many efforts to dismiss or discredit the person that doesn’t blindly accept every unsubstantiated and questionable claim you choose to publish.”

Thats why its listed as a rumour, you dumbass. There’s nothing wrong with unsubstantiated information as long as its listed as such.

As for why there has been no effort to substantially respond to, its because we’ve mostly gotten bored of your contrived whining all the time.

“I can’t say I’m very impressed with your handling of third-party anonymity either. It seems you’re more than willing to compromise it when you feel it’ll score you a point with your mates.”

Then go somewhere else. I can assure you, you won’t be missed. If I had been in Pat’s position, you would have been right at the start.

“I comment on very few articles on this site.”

“So your suggestion that I’m here only to give the poor ickle games media a hard time is victim-playing at it’s finest and another example of avoiding the issue and shifting the blame rather than making any attempt to be accountable for your work.”

There is no issue other than the one you’re making. You disagree with someone, and you refuse to shut up until you’ve completed shitted over every with your overbearing ego.

“Whizzo’s comparisons are hilariously over-the-top and out of context. Pure pantomime drama.”

Pot. Kettle. Black.

“It’s all very dramatic and clever sounding but quite pathetically misplaced on closer inspection.”

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Can’t we just ban this arse? He completely destroyes the great, mature community discussion this place is more than capable of.

No! I’m against that notion.

Nobody gets banned.

“Can’t we just ban this arse? He completely destroyes the great, mature community discussion this place is more than capable of.”

That’s a saddening statement. But enough of that metadiscussion.

Shatner’s Shatner, and that’s all there is to it. Banning him wouldn’t solve anything. If you don’t like what he posts, don’t reply. Easy.

80 comments! What the hell!

I must have blinked.

laters

What PS4 thread…..?

…oh, right…

Wow

Topic resurrection get!

I honestly haven’t even read this thread.

You haven’t read it? I’m telling Shatner on you

Shatner is quite the piece of work. He was an external producer, right? Makes sense.

Destuctoid posted this “news” more than 3 weeks ago!

Link

Rats!!!
… and they had it from … guess … vg247!

Shit, I’m stuck in a time-loop!

lol… Quiiick is broken.