Comments on: The winners and losers of E3 2008, part two – the games and services http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: jrnolasco44 http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20244 jrnolasco44 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:19:24 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20244 i think a REALLY big winner not mentioned has to be Little Big Planet. User creation in this game is simply amazing. If any dissapointed Nintendo fanboy were to get a "cartoony" game to fit their desires, it would undoubtedly have to be this game. i think a REALLY big winner not mentioned has to be Little Big Planet. User creation in this game is simply amazing. If any dissapointed Nintendo fanboy were to get a “cartoony” game to fit their desires, it would undoubtedly have to be this game.

]]> By: deanimate http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20144 deanimate Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:02:23 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20144 its worth watching all the other fallout 3 videos that are out there as the E3 one is generally considered one of the poorer ones. hit up nma-fallout.com and look through all their news posts to find all videos and writeups so far. im personally looking forward to it a lot :D its worth watching all the other fallout 3 videos that are out there as the E3 one is generally considered one of the poorer ones. hit up nma-fallout.com and look through all their news posts to find all videos and writeups so far.

im personally looking forward to it a lot :D

]]> By: absolutezero http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20102 absolutezero Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:40:12 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20102 I pretty much agree on everything apart from Fallout which seems to be trundling along on good will alone. Everyone wants it to be a fantastic game, but to me that small demo was bloody terrible, the environment was horrible, the fighting crap and disconnected. I don't care if I zoom in a half mile to shoot something in the toe. I pretty much agree on everything apart from Fallout which seems to be trundling along on good will alone.

Everyone wants it to be a fantastic game, but to me that small demo was bloody terrible, the environment was horrible, the fighting crap and disconnected. I don’t care if I zoom in a half mile to shoot something in the toe.

]]> By: morriss http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20098 morriss Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:11:30 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20098 You'll be able to tell who we are quite easily, wz. Just look for two blokes who look like they haven't slept or washed for a few days with steam coming out of their keyboards! :) You’ll be able to tell who we are quite easily, wz. Just look for two blokes who look like they haven’t slept or washed for a few days with steam coming out of their keyboards!

:)

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20088 Psychotext Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:27:26 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20088 Aww. :( Aww. :(

]]> By: wz http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20083 wz Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20083 You sure need to sell and wear some VG247 shirts so I can identify you lot on conferences ;) You sure need to sell and wear some VG247 shirts so I can identify you lot on conferences ;)

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20082 ecu Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:55:43 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20082 Leipzig is next month. August 20th, to be specific. Leipzig is next month. August 20th, to be specific.

]]> By: morriss http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20081 morriss Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:55:38 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20081 "European trade show = European games" Not really, no. But good logic. “European trade show = European games”

Not really, no. But good logic.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20080 Psychotext Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:48:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20080 Leipzig is this month? Cool! Leipzig is this month? Cool!

]]> By: sweetasman01 http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20079 sweetasman01 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:07 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20079 Motorstorm, killzone, LBP, Heavy Rain will most likely be pimped at lepzig later this month since they are being developed by european teams European trade show = European games Motorstorm, killzone, LBP, Heavy Rain will most likely be pimped at lepzig later this month since they are being developed by european teams European trade show = European games

]]> By: whoelse http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20076 whoelse Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:10:42 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20076 I agree that overall, E3 was a little disappointing because there were little announcements. What happened to these motion controllers and stuff? I agree that overall, E3 was a little disappointing because there were little announcements. What happened to these motion controllers and stuff?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20056 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:25:15 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20056 I'll keep an eye out, then. Quite interested in that one. I’ll keep an eye out, then. Quite interested in that one.

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20052 patlike Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:20:46 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20052 Blerk - I'm not sure if it was there, but there deffo was an asset drop this week. Blerk – I’m not sure if it was there, but there deffo was an asset drop this week.

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20048 patlike Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:17:28 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20048 HoC - Not a bad suggestion, that. Maybe do it for Leipzig. HoC – Not a bad suggestion, that. Maybe do it for Leipzig.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20042 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:01:02 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20042 Did Sega show Alpha Protocol? I was expecting to see that, but I don't seem to have heard anything about it. Did Sega show Alpha Protocol? I was expecting to see that, but I don’t seem to have heard anything about it.

]]> By: Hero of Canton http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20039 Hero of Canton Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:56:01 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20039 I also think you're right to have Wii Music in the winners. Because I bet a few people play this at Christmas with their families - possibly after a few sherries - and realise that it is actually great. As long as you're not watching a group of fortysomething developers playing it, that is. I also think you’re right to have Wii Music in the winners. Because I bet a few people play this at Christmas with their families – possibly after a few sherries – and realise that it is actually great. As long as you’re not watching a group of fortysomething developers playing it, that is.

]]> By: Hero of Canton http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20038 Hero of Canton Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:54:39 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20038 It's a shame you didn't widen this to include companies as well as games, because Konami and Capcom would land on the bottom of the 'losers' section with a dull thud. Capcom spent half an hour talking about Lost Planet: The Movie, and Konami's demonstration of Rock Revolution was so bad, it made the earlier GameFAQs walkthrough of one of Silent Hill: Homecoming's levels ("meat sacks") look like the FFXIII reveal. My two-pennorth about Fallout 3 - it's definitely missing something. And that something is probably 'charm'. I've seen it already, and the problem with first-person combat in an RPG is that it's not going to compare well with your average shooter. And you might not think that's an entirely fair comparison, but your brain will make it anyway. VATS looks interesting, but needs to be balanced perfectly so as not to make things too easy. I quite liked Oblivion, but I don't necessarily think swapping swords for guns works that well in this case. It’s a shame you didn’t widen this to include companies as well as games, because Konami and Capcom would land on the bottom of the ‘losers’ section with a dull thud.

Capcom spent half an hour talking about Lost Planet: The Movie, and Konami’s demonstration of Rock Revolution was so bad, it made the earlier GameFAQs walkthrough of one of Silent Hill: Homecoming’s levels (“meat sacks”) look like the FFXIII reveal.

My two-pennorth about Fallout 3 – it’s definitely missing something. And that something is probably ‘charm’. I’ve seen it already, and the problem with first-person combat in an RPG is that it’s not going to compare well with your average shooter. And you might not think that’s an entirely fair comparison, but your brain will make it anyway. VATS looks interesting, but needs to be balanced perfectly so as not to make things too easy. I quite liked Oblivion, but I don’t necessarily think swapping swords for guns works that well in this case.

]]> By: Whizzo http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20024 Whizzo Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:00:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20024 The demo was rigged in such a way that it was pretty much insta-death for any hits anyway so it wasn't such a good demonstration of how VATS works. The E3 demo is possibly the best example of badly showing off a game in some time, it looked like a post-nuclear shooter when it's not. The demo was rigged in such a way that it was pretty much insta-death for any hits anyway so it wasn’t such a good demonstration of how VATS works. The E3 demo is possibly the best example of badly showing off a game in some time, it looked like a post-nuclear shooter when it’s not.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20021 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:58:21 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20021 My understanding of the VATS thing is that you don't have to use it if you don't want to - you can play it as a straight shooter if you wish. If you don't want to, you can use it to queue up particular shots by activating it via a button-press. The percentages show your chance of actually making the shot. My understanding of the VATS thing is that you don’t have to use it if you don’t want to – you can play it as a straight shooter if you wish. If you don’t want to, you can use it to queue up particular shots by activating it via a button-press. The percentages show your chance of actually making the shot.

]]> By: SplatteredHouse http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20017 SplatteredHouse Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:37:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20017 I'm not sure at all about Fallout 3. It was an ok showing. I wish someone would explain the value, and method about the VATS system, where the camera zooms in on the foe, and percentage values start appearing across them. I'm concerned that something like that will take all challenge out of the thing. It also reminds me too much of Oblivion; and I recall that as being a disappointing experience, after the superior Morrowind. FO3 looked to be lacking in substance. @Robo - I think Motorstorm 2 would show better at Leipzig. Given the expectations, it might have been difficult for them to have accrued a big enough buzz from its unfinished state to warrant its inclusion in Sony's pc. We already knew it was on the way, and they've shown enough gameplay in the past. I liked the demo that was given of Fable 2. That's residing in "not at all bad" territory. The main positive being the orbs that represent someone on your friends list playing, from where you can bring them in to your game. That's good. I’m not sure at all about Fallout 3.
It was an ok showing.
I wish someone would explain the value, and method about the VATS system, where the camera zooms in on the foe, and percentage values start appearing across them. I’m concerned that something like that will take all challenge out of the thing. It also reminds me too much of Oblivion; and I recall that as being a disappointing experience, after the superior Morrowind. FO3 looked to be lacking in substance.

@Robo – I think Motorstorm 2 would show better at Leipzig. Given the expectations, it might have been difficult for them to have accrued a big enough buzz from its unfinished state to warrant its inclusion in Sony’s pc. We already knew it was on the way, and they’ve shown enough gameplay in the past.

I liked the demo that was given of Fable 2. That’s residing in “not at all bad” territory. The main positive being the orbs that represent someone on your friends list playing, from where you can bring them in to your game. That’s good.

]]> By: DrDamn http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20010 DrDamn Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:23:15 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20010 Loser - Fable 2 - where you thought the Fallout 3 demo was better? At least Fable 2 showed some nice and unique features rather than a step by step demonstration of each "cool" weapon with no reference to the meat of what is actually an RPG. Loser – Fable 2 – where you thought the Fallout 3 demo was better? At least Fable 2 showed some nice and unique features rather than a step by step demonstration of each “cool” weapon with no reference to the meat of what is actually an RPG.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20004 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:53:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20004 They might be slightly shirty with Eidos for not doing PS3 versions of several of its recent games, including the last two Tomb Raiders. Weren't Eidos quite vocal about not supporting the PS3 in its early days too? Actually, does anyone know which version of Underworld they were showing on the show floor? 360? PS3? PC? What? They might be slightly shirty with Eidos for not doing PS3 versions of several of its recent games, including the last two Tomb Raiders. Weren’t Eidos quite vocal about not supporting the PS3 in its early days too?

Actually, does anyone know which version of Underworld they were showing on the show floor? 360? PS3? PC? What?

]]> By: SplatteredHouse http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20003 SplatteredHouse Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:44:59 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20003 "Tomb Raider: Underworld – It looks brilliant, so why didn’t anyone push it forward?" QFT. Mystified about it how was left to the gaming media to present coverage of this one. I agree, that it deserves more of a fuss made about it. The game is standing tall, in its own right, and is really looking great. Would have easily been a plus, to either of the non-Nintendo conferences. I think, that Sony, in particular though, were very silly not to include it, given the strong association the series has with the Playstation platform. “Tomb Raider: Underworld – It looks brilliant, so why didn’t anyone push it forward?”

QFT. Mystified about it how was left to the gaming media to present coverage of this one. I agree, that it deserves more of a fuss made about it. The game is standing tall, in its own right, and is really looking great. Would have easily been a plus, to either of the non-Nintendo conferences.

I think, that Sony, in particular though, were very silly not to include it, given the strong association the series has with the Playstation platform.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20002 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:40:00 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20002 Oh yeah - Silent Hill 5. Oh dear. Oh yeah – Silent Hill 5. Oh dear.

]]> By: Bertie http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20001 Bertie Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:39:31 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20001 PS3 movie store a winner? The one that Europe won't get this year you mean? PS3 movie store a winner? The one that Europe won’t get this year you mean?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-20000 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:38:20 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-20000 I wasn't that disappointed in Borderlands either, tbh. Mainly because I had no expectations of liking it in the first place. It didn't turn out to be quite what I was expecting, so it actually went up a little in my estimations. Rise of the Argonauts didn't look too bad. Velvet Assassin was sort of interesting but had a completed retarded 'I'm in a little bit of shadow therefore I'm entirely invisible even if this guys looking right at me' sneak mechanic. Ghostbusters looked a bit meh. Lego Batman looks cool. Destroy All Humans: Path of the Furon wins the award for 'crappiest-looking next-gen game I ever saw'. Sonic looked... like Sonic. LittleBigPlanet looked great. I actually watched the whole of 1Up's Gears 2 presentation - very sharp. Resistance 2 looked good. I'm sure I'll think of some more in minute. I wasn’t that disappointed in Borderlands either, tbh. Mainly because I had no expectations of liking it in the first place. It didn’t turn out to be quite what I was expecting, so it actually went up a little in my estimations.

Rise of the Argonauts didn’t look too bad. Velvet Assassin was sort of interesting but had a completed retarded ‘I’m in a little bit of shadow therefore I’m entirely invisible even if this guys looking right at me’ sneak mechanic. Ghostbusters looked a bit meh. Lego Batman looks cool. Destroy All Humans: Path of the Furon wins the award for ‘crappiest-looking next-gen game I ever saw’. Sonic looked… like Sonic. LittleBigPlanet looked great. I actually watched the whole of 1Up’s Gears 2 presentation – very sharp. Resistance 2 looked good.

I’m sure I’ll think of some more in minute.

]]> By: Robo_1 http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-19999 Robo_1 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:34:27 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-19999 A fair summery. For a game that's due in spring, I expected to see some in game footage of MAG, but there does seem a fair amount of cynicism regarding the game, even though it's hard to fault its ambition. R2 went beyond expectation though, and I like the attitude of "between this and Gears, consumers win", rather than people squinting at texture resolution so they can label one the "winner". Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of the series, but the whole FF thing seems to have been overblown. Sony have kept exclusivity of the game in the market it not only sells best, but would have done MS most good, and in this day and age, I think third party exclusives are becoming a thing of the past anyway. I was very happy to hear that you'll soon be able to rip 360 games to hard drive, as that will not only remove much of the hideous din the machine makes, but save the disc drive. Sony announcing a movie store that was available (if only in the US) that evening was quite special, but why on earth they held back details on stuff like Tears of Blood, Heavy Rain and chose not to showcase the rather awesome looking Motorstorm 2 is beyond me. It was certainly the strangest E3 I've ever seen, which desperately lacked exciting new game reveals, and Nintendo's presentation felt more like a surreal stand up routine than anything else. E3 has had a different vibe to it since it was neutered last year, roll on TGS :) A fair summery.

For a game that’s due in spring, I expected to see some in game footage of MAG, but there does seem a fair amount of cynicism regarding the game, even though it’s hard to fault its ambition.

R2 went beyond expectation though, and I like the attitude of “between this and Gears, consumers win”, rather than people squinting at texture resolution so they can label one the “winner”.

Maybe it’s because I’m not a fan of the series, but the whole FF thing seems to have been overblown. Sony have kept exclusivity of the game in the market it not only sells best, but would have done MS most good, and in this day and age, I think third party exclusives are becoming a thing of the past anyway.

I was very happy to hear that you’ll soon be able to rip 360 games to hard drive, as that will not only remove much of the hideous din the machine makes, but save the disc drive.

Sony announcing a movie store that was available (if only in the US) that evening was quite special, but why on earth they held back details on stuff like Tears of Blood, Heavy Rain and chose not to showcase the rather awesome looking Motorstorm 2 is beyond me.

It was certainly the strangest E3 I’ve ever seen, which desperately lacked exciting new game reveals, and Nintendo’s presentation felt more like a surreal stand up routine than anything else.

E3 has had a different vibe to it since it was neutered last year, roll on TGS :)

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-19998 patlike Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:27:25 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-19998 *shakes on it* *shakes on it*

]]> By: morriss http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-19997 morriss Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:27:23 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-19997 Calling Miyamoto a loser is a bit...you know..."wrong" Calling Miyamoto a loser is a bit…you know…”wrong”

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/comment-page-1/#comment-19996 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:26:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/18/the-winners-and-losers-of-e3-2008-part-two-%e2%80%93-the-games-and-services/#comment-19996 Perhaps we could compromise and just call the guys who were playing it on-stage "losers"? Perhaps we could compromise and just call the guys who were playing it on-stage “losers”?

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