Comments on: Rumour: PS3 Firmware 2.41 for “mid-week”

By: wz

wz — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:05:54 +0000

Being a programmer myself, I do understand where the difficulty comes from. I just don’t have any feelings of empathy whatsoever for a company like Sony (or MS, on another note) messing up something the size of this.

And considering the fact they actually *pulled* the upgrade, it cannot be that few and far in between, really.

By: XDamage

XDamage — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:52:12 +0000

@wz

As far between as finding someone who actually have experienced this seems to be (bricking), it’s not like it’s a big thing.
Unforseeable things will always happen in programming. It could have been caused by a combination of settings that only occurs in perhaps a few in a million consoles.

Every firmware update probably bricks a couple of unlucky chaps consoles somewhere in the world.

By: wz

wz — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:59:58 +0000

To both commenters:

Of course, it can happen to anyone. As long as anyone does not actually test their stuff under real-world circumstances. Surely, a locking-up firmware should have been detectable by testing it on some 1000 or so consoles from different product eras.
It’s feat not that hard to pull of for Sony.

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:37:16 +0000

@wz
This won’t be the last we see of this sort of thing. MS have already managed it twice themselves with the 360.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:05:06 +0000

@ wz
This can happen to anyone. Being a big company with lots of experience does not make you imune.

And AFAIK the 2.4 update is not just a simple software-update to the OS, it’s a FIRMWARE-update.
So if you screw while updating you can’t just wipe your HDD on all’s fine again. Firmware-updates patch your hardware, and that’s a very delicate and dangerous process.

By: wz

wz — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:49:06 +0000

Makes you wonder.. How, ffs, can a company like Sony screw something like this? Especially when the whole lot of us watches. Incredible.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:43:12 +0000

DrDamn: Tricky… for sure, but when there’s a whole bunch of people talking about it only happening since 2.4 you have to wonder if it isn’t related.

By: Quiiick

Quiiick — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:28:15 +0000

@ prodygee
No need to refrain for using your PS3!
If you installed the 2.4 update successfully there’s noting to worry about.
The error ONLY occurs WHILE installing!

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:25:33 +0000

Crashes are a whole world away from bricking – plus it would be very tricky to pin crashes down specifically to 2.4.

By: Psychotext

Psychotext — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:22:22 +0000

DrDamn: Not entirely true. There are a number of people reporting crashes on 2.4 where they had none before. But yes, it’s not bricking.

By: DrDamn

DrDamn — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:55:49 +0000

You do realise that if it installed ok then you are fine don’t you? The problem was only when installing it no post install.

By: prodygee

prodygee — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:39:03 +0000

I just hope it will come out. I had no problems whatsoever when installing the firmware, but I’m not taking the risk so I haven’t played all week now. Just don’t want to lose my savedata – backing it up doesn’t help for some games, it’ll say it’s not legitimate (burnout paradise).