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	<title>Comments on: Firmware 2.40: Is Playstation 3 finally the finished product?</title>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-17050</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. (y)</description>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16990</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem morriss. As I&#039;ve seen it (and others, it appears) when you objectively dissect your criticism of a system &quot;missing the most basic features known to man&quot; it appears that, actually, they&#039;re not that basic, that many other systems lack them and that they&#039;ve not actually been around for very long at all.

So, remaining objective, a lot of the criticisms you&#039;re choosing to selectively direct at one single system appear to apply to most systems. And most systems don&#039;t appear to be making any effort to remedy the situation. So I&#039;m a little puzzled as to why such severe appraisals are being directed at the one that is.

Which is precisely why I&#039;m looking forward to the complementary articles covering all the other gaming systems. I&#039;d expect to see consistency in the list of features being scrutinised rather than some ad-hoc list of features that don&#039;t relate to one another.

If such articles are to be worth anything, I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a lot to expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem morriss. As I&#8217;ve seen it (and others, it appears) when you objectively dissect your criticism of a system &#8220;missing the most basic features known to man&#8221; it appears that, actually, they&#8217;re not that basic, that many other systems lack them and that they&#8217;ve not actually been around for very long at all.</p>
<p>So, remaining objective, a lot of the criticisms you&#8217;re choosing to selectively direct at one single system appear to apply to most systems. And most systems don&#8217;t appear to be making any effort to remedy the situation. So I&#8217;m a little puzzled as to why such severe appraisals are being directed at the one that is.</p>
<p>Which is precisely why I&#8217;m looking forward to the complementary articles covering all the other gaming systems. I&#8217;d expect to see consistency in the list of features being scrutinised rather than some ad-hoc list of features that don&#8217;t relate to one another.</p>
<p>If such articles are to be worth anything, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a lot to expect.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16964</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a nothing feature tbh.

As for Sony, they seem like such a badly managed company. Well, the gaming division, anyway. It seems like they really don&#039;t have a direction or a goal. Or a clue. I don&#039;t think this firmware changes anything, and I bet those working at Sony know just what a mess the place is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nothing feature tbh.</p>
<p>As for Sony, they seem like such a badly managed company. Well, the gaming division, anyway. It seems like they really don&#8217;t have a direction or a goal. Or a clue. I don&#8217;t think this firmware changes anything, and I bet those working at Sony know just what a mess the place is in.</p>
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		<title>By: absolutezero</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16961</link>
		<dc:creator>absolutezero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pc has no cross game invites.

Neither does the Wii.

In fact neither do any of the handhelds.

So it seems that the 360 is the only one with this feature, making it not really bog standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pc has no cross game invites.</p>
<p>Neither does the Wii.</p>
<p>In fact neither do any of the handhelds.</p>
<p>So it seems that the 360 is the only one with this feature, making it not really bog standard.</p>
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		<title>By: mightyhokie</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16959</link>
		<dc:creator>mightyhokie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have all three consoles. 
The Wii is a wasted with the exception of Wii Fit that my fiance likes so much. That being said, I&#039;ll leave it out of the equation. 

I primarily use my 360, and by &#039;primarily&#039; I mean &#039;almost exclusively&#039; when it comes to actually playing games. The 360 impresses me almost every day and I can honestly say that Microsoft got it right. The stupid RROD has not happened to me but has for one of my friends. It is a bit unfair at this point to bash MS for the RROD since they have gone out of their way to make it right by the customers. Still, if you must throw stones then whatever. Xbox has a superior Live community, a vast wealth of games that kick ass, and the ability to download movies, tv shows, DLC, etc in an easy and fairly intuitive way. They also have many free informational elements under the &#039;xbox live&#039; button that gives you previews, reviews, etc. Sony has none of that. I was never a Sony hater, but I wanted to see the 360 succeed so at first I was happy that Sony had some issues. No longer.

A month or so ago I got a PS3 for a wedding present from my fiance. I scroll through the XMB and think &#039;wow! this looks cool&#039;. I see how easy it is to download cool themes, to even make your own themes, that the game changes things as time and date change, the visual style is pleasant, the browser is nice (although flawed), and so many other things make me say &#039;wow&#039;. However, I almost never use it because I bought it for Blu-Ray and that is almost all it is good for. THere are some games on it. I like Pixel Monsters, I have Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank and a few more I borrowed from a friend when I first got it, but I can&#039;t make myself play them. Mainly because the lack of achievements. Now they have the trophy system coming out and I was excited, then pissed when I saw the screens of the trophies, thinking &#039;this looks like N64 crap!&#039;, but was excited again to see the demonstration on the web (Sony reallllly needed to have those real achievement icons or many 360 people would never have converted). If you haven&#039;t played a game with achievements you are missing half the fun. They don&#039;t make me play differently, they just make me play the game multiple times in order to get the achievements/trophies. 

Sony is starting to shape up, and Home looks really, really cool (who of us doesn&#039;t like to have their own &#039;tree house&#039;?. It is just a shame that Sony has waited until they are literally dead in the water to come out with what should have been the system at launch. It is ridiculous and I feel sorry for the Sony fanboys that refuse to give Microsoft it&#039;s due. While they have been looking at a system with potential 360 fans have been having a blast. I&#039;m glad I own a PS3, and I see lots of potential for it...I just want to see it reach that potential.

Competition is good, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have all three consoles.<br />
The Wii is a wasted with the exception of Wii Fit that my fiance likes so much. That being said, I&#8217;ll leave it out of the equation. </p>
<p>I primarily use my 360, and by &#8216;primarily&#8217; I mean &#8216;almost exclusively&#8217; when it comes to actually playing games. The 360 impresses me almost every day and I can honestly say that Microsoft got it right. The stupid RROD has not happened to me but has for one of my friends. It is a bit unfair at this point to bash MS for the RROD since they have gone out of their way to make it right by the customers. Still, if you must throw stones then whatever. Xbox has a superior Live community, a vast wealth of games that kick ass, and the ability to download movies, tv shows, DLC, etc in an easy and fairly intuitive way. They also have many free informational elements under the &#8216;xbox live&#8217; button that gives you previews, reviews, etc. Sony has none of that. I was never a Sony hater, but I wanted to see the 360 succeed so at first I was happy that Sony had some issues. No longer.</p>
<p>A month or so ago I got a PS3 for a wedding present from my fiance. I scroll through the XMB and think &#8216;wow! this looks cool&#8217;. I see how easy it is to download cool themes, to even make your own themes, that the game changes things as time and date change, the visual style is pleasant, the browser is nice (although flawed), and so many other things make me say &#8216;wow&#8217;. However, I almost never use it because I bought it for Blu-Ray and that is almost all it is good for. THere are some games on it. I like Pixel Monsters, I have Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank and a few more I borrowed from a friend when I first got it, but I can&#8217;t make myself play them. Mainly because the lack of achievements. Now they have the trophy system coming out and I was excited, then pissed when I saw the screens of the trophies, thinking &#8216;this looks like N64 crap!&#8217;, but was excited again to see the demonstration on the web (Sony reallllly needed to have those real achievement icons or many 360 people would never have converted). If you haven&#8217;t played a game with achievements you are missing half the fun. They don&#8217;t make me play differently, they just make me play the game multiple times in order to get the achievements/trophies. </p>
<p>Sony is starting to shape up, and Home looks really, really cool (who of us doesn&#8217;t like to have their own &#8216;tree house&#8217;?. It is just a shame that Sony has waited until they are literally dead in the water to come out with what should have been the system at launch. It is ridiculous and I feel sorry for the Sony fanboys that refuse to give Microsoft it&#8217;s due. While they have been looking at a system with potential 360 fans have been having a blast. I&#8217;m glad I own a PS3, and I see lots of potential for it&#8230;I just want to see it reach that potential.</p>
<p>Competition is good, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16957</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway, just because some gamers don&#039;t see that need for cross-game invites, there are plenty of others that do. 

It&#039;s not a deal-breaker, that was never the point, it&#039;s just a bog-standard feature that for some reason isn&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway, just because some gamers don&#8217;t see that need for cross-game invites, there are plenty of others that do. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a deal-breaker, that was never the point, it&#8217;s just a bog-standard feature that for some reason isn&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16956</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d like to request a journalist with a similar sentiment/relationship to the hardware platform under review as morriss has with Playstation when the other articles are written.

That’d be great, thanks.&quot;

Thanks for that, and yeah, I own both the Wii and 360 and will (hopefully) be writing those articles too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d like to request a journalist with a similar sentiment/relationship to the hardware platform under review as morriss has with Playstation when the other articles are written.</p>
<p>That’d be great, thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for that, and yeah, I own both the Wii and 360 and will (hopefully) be writing those articles too.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16953</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I suppose given I spend most of my time playing downloadable games it works particularly well for me.  That&#039;s the beauty of it, accept invite and you&#039;re in the game nearly immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I suppose given I spend most of my time playing downloadable games it works particularly well for me.  That&#8217;s the beauty of it, accept invite and you&#8217;re in the game nearly immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16952</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Suffice? No, probably not. As a bare minimum it will do though. On the bright side at least you’ll be able to swap between PSN games fairly quickly now.&quot;

Still not seeing the appeal of it though. You&#039;d have to drop the game you were playing, go root around for the disc of the game they want you to play, wait for it to load. I don&#039;t see why a cross-game invite is needed for this. It&#039;s really quite a useless feature. It&#039;d work better if everything loaded off the HDD in an instant. Usually by the time I&#039;ve managed to join something I&#039;ve been invited to, they&#039;ve already started anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Suffice? No, probably not. As a bare minimum it will do though. On the bright side at least you’ll be able to swap between PSN games fairly quickly now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still not seeing the appeal of it though. You&#8217;d have to drop the game you were playing, go root around for the disc of the game they want you to play, wait for it to load. I don&#8217;t see why a cross-game invite is needed for this. It&#8217;s really quite a useless feature. It&#8217;d work better if everything loaded off the HDD in an instant. Usually by the time I&#8217;ve managed to join something I&#8217;ve been invited to, they&#8217;ve already started anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16951</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shatner: Umm... I like the people on my friends list.  If they want a game with me I&#039;m usually more than happy to oblige.

Why would you have random dicks on your friends list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shatner: Umm&#8230; I like the people on my friends list.  If they want a game with me I&#8217;m usually more than happy to oblige.</p>
<p>Why would you have random dicks on your friends list?</p>
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		<title>By: Robo_1</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16950</link>
		<dc:creator>Robo_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although no simultaneous audio output and no hardware scaler…&quot;

I&#039;m not saying either Sony or MS are bullet proof in their respective areas (360&#039;s dash is pretty messy and sluggish compared to the XMB, and Live fell over pretty bad at Christmas) but I think things like that fall by the wayside when you look at the bigger picture.

Live is great and Sony are playing catch up, PS3&#039;s are well built, whilst 360&#039;s failure rate is legendary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although no simultaneous audio output and no hardware scaler…&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying either Sony or MS are bullet proof in their respective areas (360&#8217;s dash is pretty messy and sluggish compared to the XMB, and Live fell over pretty bad at Christmas) but I think things like that fall by the wayside when you look at the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Live is great and Sony are playing catch up, PS3&#8217;s are well built, whilst 360&#8217;s failure rate is legendary.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16949</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen the draw.

&quot;Hey, stop playing that game you&#039;re playing and play with us so we can shoot you in the face and cast slurs against your ancestors&quot;

Fuck off. When I want to play with you, I&#039;ll see if you&#039;re online, see what you&#039;re playing and hop on. Otherwise I&#039;m quite content thankyouverymuch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen the draw.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, stop playing that game you&#8217;re playing and play with us so we can shoot you in the face and cast slurs against your ancestors&#8221;</p>
<p>Fuck off. When I want to play with you, I&#8217;ll see if you&#8217;re online, see what you&#8217;re playing and hop on. Otherwise I&#8217;m quite content thankyouverymuch.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16948</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suffice?  No, probably not.  As a bare minimum it will do though.  On the bright side at least you&#039;ll be able to swap between PSN games fairly quickly now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suffice?  No, probably not.  As a bare minimum it will do though.  On the bright side at least you&#8217;ll be able to swap between PSN games fairly quickly now.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16947</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then surely a regular message would suffice? Which can be done on PS3, can&#039;t it? Hell, even when I&#039;m playing the same game as I&#039;ve been invited to, often by the time I&#039;ve closed my session and joined, the invite has expired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then surely a regular message would suffice? Which can be done on PS3, can&#8217;t it? Hell, even when I&#8217;m playing the same game as I&#8217;ve been invited to, often by the time I&#8217;ve closed my session and joined, the invite has expired.</p>
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		<title>By: Psychotext</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16946</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychotext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ecu: There&#039;s plenty of times I&#039;ve said to someone &quot;I&#039;m playing x game, give me an invite when you&#039;re ready&quot;.  Or I&#039;ve been having a go on a single player title when someone comes on and invites me for some multiplayer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecu: There&#8217;s plenty of times I&#8217;ve said to someone &#8220;I&#8217;m playing x game, give me an invite when you&#8217;re ready&#8221;.  Or I&#8217;ve been having a go on a single player title when someone comes on and invites me for some multiplayer.</p>
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		<title>By: ecu</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16944</link>
		<dc:creator>ecu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never quite got the fuss over cross game invites. I&#039;ve never invited someone to a game that they&#039;re not already playing. And if I&#039;m playing GTA and someone invites me to a game of Halo 3, well.. fuck off! I&#039;m playing GTA, if I wanted to play Halo 3, I&#039;d bloody well play it, wouldn&#039;t I?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never quite got the fuss over cross game invites. I&#8217;ve never invited someone to a game that they&#8217;re not already playing. And if I&#8217;m playing GTA and someone invites me to a game of Halo 3, well.. fuck off! I&#8217;m playing GTA, if I wanted to play Halo 3, I&#8217;d bloody well play it, wouldn&#8217;t I?!</p>
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16943</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to the complementary Microsoft and Nintendo pieces when they do their system updates later in the year.

I&#039;d like to request a journalist with a similar sentiment/relationship to the hardware platform under review as morriss has with Playstation when the other articles are written. 

That&#039;d be great, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the complementary Microsoft and Nintendo pieces when they do their system updates later in the year.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to request a journalist with a similar sentiment/relationship to the hardware platform under review as morriss has with Playstation when the other articles are written. </p>
<p>That&#8217;d be great, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: wz</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16938</link>
		<dc:creator>wz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing the unbelievable feats Sony pulls of in other areas, it&#039;s a bit strange that they fail to provide such basic &quot;home entertainment&quot; features as the simultaneous audio output.
The technology is definately with them, so there&#039;s no excuse here, really.

(Sony&#039;s A/V receivers are awesomest to the max. I just had to mention that.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing the unbelievable feats Sony pulls of in other areas, it&#8217;s a bit strange that they fail to provide such basic &#8220;home entertainment&#8221; features as the simultaneous audio output.<br />
The technology is definately with them, so there&#8217;s no excuse here, really.</p>
<p>(Sony&#8217;s A/V receivers are awesomest to the max. I just had to mention that.)</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16931</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the differences between 360 &amp; PS3 comes down to a fundamental difference between MS and Sony. MS is a software company, Sony is a hardware company, so both play to their respective strengths.&quot;

Although no simultaneous audio output and no hardware scaler...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the differences between 360 &#038; PS3 comes down to a fundamental difference between MS and Sony. MS is a software company, Sony is a hardware company, so both play to their respective strengths.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although no simultaneous audio output and no hardware scaler&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Plainview</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16899</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Plainview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy</p>
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		<title>By: Robo_1</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16896</link>
		<dc:creator>Robo_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the differences between 360 &amp; PS3 comes down to a fundamental difference between MS and Sony. MS is a software company, Sony is a hardware company, so both play to their respective strengths.

The community features of Live don&#039;t interest me much anyway. That&#039;s not to belittle them, as obviously many people are heavily into online gaming, and Live does a fantastic service to this market.

I&#039;m what you would call, a casual online gamer, so Sony&#039;s approach works better for me, in that online gaming is free (and wireless is standard), but the trade off is that the feature set is more basic.

Either way, 2.4 is going to be a great bonus for PS3 users, and even if there&#039;s no getting away from the fact that it&#039;s mainly playing catch up with where 360 was on launch, at least Sony are addressing these issues, and have clearly said they&#039;re not finished yet, so there&#039;s hope that voice chat, and invites are still coming.

In truth, I get the feeling that Sony were positioning Home as their version of Xbox Live but have since found that it&#039;s not going to be the solution gamers are looking for, and Home has been re-positioned to become a Face Book/Myspace style portal for PS3 users, which I imagine they&#039;re hoping will hold wider appeal than a more closed system such as Live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the differences between 360 &amp; PS3 comes down to a fundamental difference between MS and Sony. MS is a software company, Sony is a hardware company, so both play to their respective strengths.</p>
<p>The community features of Live don&#8217;t interest me much anyway. That&#8217;s not to belittle them, as obviously many people are heavily into online gaming, and Live does a fantastic service to this market.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m what you would call, a casual online gamer, so Sony&#8217;s approach works better for me, in that online gaming is free (and wireless is standard), but the trade off is that the feature set is more basic.</p>
<p>Either way, 2.4 is going to be a great bonus for PS3 users, and even if there&#8217;s no getting away from the fact that it&#8217;s mainly playing catch up with where 360 was on launch, at least Sony are addressing these issues, and have clearly said they&#8217;re not finished yet, so there&#8217;s hope that voice chat, and invites are still coming.</p>
<p>In truth, I get the feeling that Sony were positioning Home as their version of Xbox Live but have since found that it&#8217;s not going to be the solution gamers are looking for, and Home has been re-positioned to become a Face Book/Myspace style portal for PS3 users, which I imagine they&#8217;re hoping will hold wider appeal than a more closed system such as Live.</p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16890</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about &quot;most&quot; Sony games being in 1080p. A few are, but it&#039;s far from comprehensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about &#8220;most&#8221; Sony games being in 1080p. A few are, but it&#8217;s far from comprehensive.</p>
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		<title>By: klanger13</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16888</link>
		<dc:creator>klanger13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nooooooooooooooo.  Don&#039;t get him started again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nooooooooooooooo.  Don&#8217;t get him started again.</p>
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		<title>By: lelik</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16887</link>
		<dc:creator>lelik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 360 failing is nothing compared to not being able to play games in HD. Have you read any of the 86 page thread linked in the article?

Anyway, I’m not going down this road again. The whole “yeahbutxboxbreakslol” thing is tiresome. 

And anyway, Microsoft are next on my list.


are you talking bout the ps3 or xbox not playing games in hd? cuz my 46 inch samsung says otherwise.

most games made by sony are 1080 like they said. anything sony will be at least 720p. 3rd parties make sub hd games. upscaler isnt neccessary unless your tv is ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 360 failing is nothing compared to not being able to play games in HD. Have you read any of the 86 page thread linked in the article?</p>
<p>Anyway, I’m not going down this road again. The whole “yeahbutxboxbreakslol” thing is tiresome. </p>
<p>And anyway, Microsoft are next on my list.</p>
<p>are you talking bout the ps3 or xbox not playing games in hd? cuz my 46 inch samsung says otherwise.</p>
<p>most games made by sony are 1080 like they said. anything sony will be at least 720p. 3rd parties make sub hd games. upscaler isnt neccessary unless your tv is ass.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16875</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not now they won&#039;t back back when it was released they obviously did. (again, see thread and engadget article)

And yeah, there are many more things that could have been mentioned like the fact the controllers don&#039;t &quot;auto-off&quot; after a few minutes if you&#039;re not using it.

Again, all basic, fundamental stuff.

Still, I won&#039;t say any more about it now, promise! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not now they won&#8217;t back back when it was released they obviously did. (again, see thread and engadget article)</p>
<p>And yeah, there are many more things that could have been mentioned like the fact the controllers don&#8217;t &#8220;auto-off&#8221; after a few minutes if you&#8217;re not using it.</p>
<p>Again, all basic, fundamental stuff.</p>
<p>Still, I won&#8217;t say any more about it now, promise! <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blerk</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16869</link>
		<dc:creator>Blerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of a scaler is a pretty weird omission, I will admit, but you are coming at this from a pretty skewed angle, morriss. The vast majority of HD telly owners won&#039;t have any problems with the PS3&#039;s HD output.

They missed 60hz output off of the options for SD modes too, so you really should&#039;ve whinged about that as well. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of a scaler is a pretty weird omission, I will admit, but you are coming at this from a pretty skewed angle, morriss. The vast majority of HD telly owners won&#8217;t have any problems with the PS3&#8217;s HD output.</p>
<p>They missed 60hz output off of the options for SD modes too, so you really should&#8217;ve whinged about that as well. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16867</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 360 failing is nothing compared to not being able to play games in HD. Have you read any of the 86 page thread linked in the article?

Anyway, I&#039;m not going down this road again. The whole &quot;yeahbutxboxbreakslol&quot; thing is tiresome. 

And anyway, Microsoft are next on my list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 360 failing is nothing compared to not being able to play games in HD. Have you read any of the 86 page thread linked in the article?</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not going down this road again. The whole &#8220;yeahbutxboxbreakslol&#8221; thing is tiresome. </p>
<p>And anyway, Microsoft are next on my list.</p>
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		<title>By: CastellanSpandrell</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16864</link>
		<dc:creator>CastellanSpandrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you’d consider it finished CastellanSpandrell? You’d be happy if development ended with 2.4?&quot;

The PS3 is a finished product, the firmware isn&#039;t and will continue to be updated. There, clear enough?

&quot;The point is that Sony are still having problems implementing the most basic capabilities that should’ve been there nearly 2 years ago. And we’re thanking them for it.&quot;

At least it&#039;s just the software that&#039;s the problem unlike the 360 and its hardware woes. I&#039;d say that was more of a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you’d consider it finished CastellanSpandrell? You’d be happy if development ended with 2.4?&#8221;</p>
<p>The PS3 is a finished product, the firmware isn&#8217;t and will continue to be updated. There, clear enough?</p>
<p>&#8220;The point is that Sony are still having problems implementing the most basic capabilities that should’ve been there nearly 2 years ago. And we’re thanking them for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>At least it&#8217;s just the software that&#8217;s the problem unlike the 360 and its hardware woes. I&#8217;d say that was more of a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Killerbee</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16863</link>
		<dc:creator>Killerbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. :)

&quot;safe&quot; is the wrong word - it&#039;s more that I can&#039;t buy one with confidence that I won&#039;t regret not waiting just that little bit longer to get a better deal when, say, the lineup for Christmas is revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. <img src='http://www.vg247.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;safe&#8221; is the wrong word &#8211; it&#8217;s more that I can&#8217;t buy one with confidence that I won&#8217;t regret not waiting just that little bit longer to get a better deal when, say, the lineup for Christmas is revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: morriss</title>
		<link>http://www.vg247.com/2008/07/01/firmware-240-is-playstation-3-finally-the-finished-product/comment-page-1/#comment-16862</link>
		<dc:creator>morriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole point of the piece is that we&#039;ve had a console on the market for a very long without some of the most basic features known to man.

The question of whether it is finished is a rhetorical one. Of course more and more updates will be forthcoming but that&#039;s not the point. The point is that Sony are still having problems implementing the most basic capabilities that should&#039;ve been there nearly 2 years ago. And we&#039;re thanking them for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole point of the piece is that we&#8217;ve had a console on the market for a very long without some of the most basic features known to man.</p>
<p>The question of whether it is finished is a rhetorical one. Of course more and more updates will be forthcoming but that&#8217;s not the point. The point is that Sony are still having problems implementing the most basic capabilities that should&#8217;ve been there nearly 2 years ago. And we&#8217;re thanking them for it.</p>
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