Comments on: Rumour: Microsoft to allow third-party hardware to play 360 games http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/ VG247.com Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:29:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-19920 Blerk Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:45:45 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-19920 360 Fanboy's <a href="http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/17/e308-microsoft-conference-bingo-results/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Conference Bingo results</a> reminded me that this one turned out to be complete bunk, too. Who starts these rumours? I think we should start some of our own next year. :-D 360 Fanboy’s Microsoft Conference Bingo results reminded me that this one turned out to be complete bunk, too. Who starts these rumours? I think we should start some of our own next year. :-D

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15886 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:54:01 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15886 @ ecu Quote: "So… Sony could build 360 compatibility in to a future model of the PS3?" NO! Sony would never want to do that because they would not get any royalties off of 360-games. This would cannibalize their income from game-sales. @ ecu
Quote: “So… Sony could build 360 compatibility in to a future model of the PS3?”
NO! Sony would never want to do that because they would not get any royalties off of 360-games. This would cannibalize their income from game-sales.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15882 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:28:48 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15882 Ah! That'll do nicely, then. I suddenly had a thought that they might only do slow speeds due to DVD movies only needing slow speeds. Ah! That’ll do nicely, then. I suddenly had a thought that they might only do slow speeds due to DVD movies only needing slow speeds.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15881 Psychotext Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:22:45 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15881 There's multiformat BR drives that can handle 6x BR and 16x DVD now. There’s multiformat BR drives that can handle 6x BR and 16x DVD now.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15880 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:19:26 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15880 That'd be the £800 model, obviously. I just thought of a dampener for the 'Blu-Ray player with 360 compatibility built-in' idea - how fast do Blu-Ray drives spin DVDs? That’d be the £800 model, obviously.

I just thought of a dampener for the ‘Blu-Ray player with 360 compatibility built-in’ idea – how fast do Blu-Ray drives spin DVDs?

]]> By: ecu http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15879 ecu Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:15:17 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15879 So... Sony could build 360 compatibility in to a future model of the PS3? So… Sony could build 360 compatibility in to a future model of the PS3?

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15860 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:21:45 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15860 @ Blerk Good point! :) @ Psychotext Thanks for the info! :) @ Blerk
Good point! :)

@ Psychotext
Thanks for the info! :)

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15847 Psychotext Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:02:57 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15847 Found it... it's in a table half way down the page: http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919 Found it… it’s in a table half way down the page:
http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15845 Psychotext Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:01:06 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15845 Quiiick: That division contains all sorts of things outside of gaming so you can't really look at it from that point of view. Put it this way, the machine has had a $50 price drop since its release in the US nearly 3 years ago... if they aren't making money on the hardware now something is very, very wrong. I'm sure isupply have an analysis somewhere but I can't find it. All I can find is some comment on it: "When iSuppli tore down an Xbox 360 around this time last year, the firm estimated that Microsoft was losing $126 on each 360 sold. Microsoft is whistling a much happier tune now. Revised component costs for the Xbox 360 indicate that costs have dropped to the point where each $399 Xbox 360 sold costs $323.30 to make—leaving Microsoft $75.70 in the black on each system, before marketing and other costs are figured into the equation." Quiiick: That division contains all sorts of things outside of gaming so you can’t really look at it from that point of view. Put it this way, the machine has had a $50 price drop since its release in the US nearly 3 years ago… if they aren’t making money on the hardware now something is very, very wrong.

I’m sure isupply have an analysis somewhere but I can’t find it. All I can find is some comment on it:

“When iSuppli tore down an Xbox 360 around this time last year, the firm estimated that Microsoft was losing $126 on each 360 sold. Microsoft is whistling a much happier tune now. Revised component costs for the Xbox 360 indicate that costs have dropped to the point where each $399 Xbox 360 sold costs $323.30 to make—leaving Microsoft $75.70 in the black on each system, before marketing and other costs are figured into the equation.”

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15844 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:58:10 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15844 Well, one of the main reasons that's always brought up for the Japanese not liking the 360 is that it's big and noisy. A smaller, quieter machine made by a Japanese manufacturer could potentially be more appealing. Or not. It certainly couldn't be any less appealing. :-D Well, one of the main reasons that’s always brought up for the Japanese not liking the 360 is that it’s big and noisy. A smaller, quieter machine made by a Japanese manufacturer could potentially be more appealing. Or not. It certainly couldn’t be any less appealing. :-D

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15839 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:54:49 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15839 @ Blerk Quote: "Could be an interesting way to try to make in-roads into Japan, too." Why would third-party hardware which play 360-games be "a way to make in-roads into Japan" ??? What's the benefit? @ Blerk
Quote: “Could be an interesting way to try to make in-roads into Japan, too.”

Why would third-party hardware which play 360-games be “a way to make in-roads into Japan” ???

What’s the benefit?

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15834 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:51:07 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15834 @ Psychotext What I heard is that Microsoft are making profits in the "Games/Entertainment/ 360" Division which <strong>includes</strong> game-sales, XBL-subscriptions and peripherals. They're still loosing money on the 360-hardware alone afaik. @ Psychotext
What I heard is that Microsoft are making profits in the “Games/Entertainment/ 360″ Division which includes game-sales, XBL-subscriptions and peripherals.
They’re still loosing money on the 360-hardware alone afaik.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15831 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:48:49 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15831 Could be an interesting way to try to make in-roads into Japan, too. Could be an interesting way to try to make in-roads into Japan, too.

]]> By: Psychotext http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15825 Psychotext Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:42:04 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15825 Quiiick: Microsoft is into the stage that they're making profits on the hardware as well as the software. It's at that point they can farm it out to other manufacturers who can make profits too (or increase their margins by charging more for something like blu-ray, silent machines, smaller form factor etc). Quiiick: Microsoft is into the stage that they’re making profits on the hardware as well as the software. It’s at that point they can farm it out to other manufacturers who can make profits too (or increase their margins by charging more for something like blu-ray, silent machines, smaller form factor etc).

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15813 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:23:09 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15813 @ Blerk I don't know when the "Q" launched. But wasn't the original cube also manufactured by Panasonic? Plus: I never regarded big N's hardware as "next-gen" consoles from a technological standpoint. So, you may not compare it with PS3 or the 360. @ Blerk
I don’t know when the “Q” launched.
But wasn’t the original cube also manufactured by Panasonic?

Plus: I never regarded big N’s hardware as “next-gen” consoles from a technological standpoint. So, you may not compare it with PS3 or the 360.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15806 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:09:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15806 The Q launched in the Gamecube's first year, didn't it? The Q launched in the Gamecube’s first year, didn’t it?

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15805 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:03:58 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15805 @ Blerk Maybe very late into the life-cycle of a console, it is a possibility. But never in the first <strong>2-3</strong> years after launch! @ Blerk
Maybe very late into the life-cycle of a console, it is a possibility.
But never in the first 2-3 years after launch!

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15800 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:25:13 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15800 Extra sales of their particular model of Blu-Ray Player/Set-Top Box/Toaster because it includes gaming tech? The ability to produce the hardware cheaper than Microsoft because they're already electronics giants? Being offered a cut of the software license cash? I dunno. Why did Panasonic make the Q? There must be *something* in it for the third parties. Extra sales of their particular model of Blu-Ray Player/Set-Top Box/Toaster because it includes gaming tech? The ability to produce the hardware cheaper than Microsoft because they’re already electronics giants? Being offered a cut of the software license cash?

I dunno. Why did Panasonic make the Q? There must be *something* in it for the third parties.

]]> By: Quiiick http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15797 Quiiick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:06:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15797 Why does no one here thinks this is bollocks ??? The whole business-model for console hardware is only profitable (if ever) because M$ and Sony can subsidise it with income by game-sales. How should a third-party make real money off a console hardware ??? Why does no one here thinks this is bollocks ???

The whole business-model for console hardware is only profitable (if ever) because M$ and Sony can subsidise it with income by game-sales.

How should a third-party make real money off a console hardware ???

]]> By: SticKboy http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15796 SticKboy Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:01:18 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15796 The re-birth of the 3D0, fingers-crossed. I wonder if this might be the solution to their hardware problems in Japan? The re-birth of the 3D0, fingers-crossed.

I wonder if this might be the solution to their hardware problems in Japan?

]]> By: pjmaybe http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15794 pjmaybe Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:30:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15794 Make it a PC VM that can play 360 games with no tearing, full v synch and framerates locked and I'll kiss Bill Gates' snecky snatch. Make it a PC VM that can play 360 games with no tearing, full v synch and framerates locked and I’ll kiss Bill Gates’ snecky snatch.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15780 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:48:44 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15780 I remember the Sega Mega-PC. Edit: Sorry, *Amstrad* Mega-PC. :-D I remember the Sega Mega-PC.

Edit: Sorry, *Amstrad* Mega-PC. :-D

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15779 patlike Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:48:15 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15779 I don't reckon the Blu-ray thing's true. I won't believe that until it's announced, to be honest. The add-on, I mean. I don’t reckon the Blu-ray thing’s true. I won’t believe that until it’s announced, to be honest. The add-on, I mean.

]]> By: fj http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15778 fj Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:46:55 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15778 Anyone remember the 3D0 card for PC? Anyone remember the 3D0 card for PC?

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15777 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:46:25 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15777 There've been plenty of rumours flying around about a Blu-Ray add-on, but Microsoft have consistently said they're not doing one. Maybe *they're* not doing one, but... This is my favourite rumour in ages. One step closer to that mythical "one console format, lots of people building it" ideal. There’ve been plenty of rumours flying around about a Blu-Ray add-on, but Microsoft have consistently said they’re not doing one. Maybe *they’re* not doing one, but…

This is my favourite rumour in ages. One step closer to that mythical “one console format, lots of people building it” ideal.

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15775 patlike Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:43:47 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15775 It'd be genuinely exciting if they announced it and showed new, 360 game-playing hardware at the show. It’d be genuinely exciting if they announced it and showed new, 360 game-playing hardware at the show.

]]> By: Whizzo http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15774 Whizzo Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:41:47 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15774 Sounds like a great idea to me and if this is the surprising news that's been mentioned for E3 it really is just that. Sounds like a great idea to me and if this is the surprising news that’s been mentioned for E3 it really is just that.

]]> By: morriss http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15772 morriss Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:37:16 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15772 Good idea, I think. Good idea, I think.

]]> By: patlike http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15769 patlike Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:34:03 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15769 Yep, agree. And no, I don't understand either. Yep, agree. And no, I don’t understand either.

]]> By: Blerk http://www.vg247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15768 Blerk Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:29:55 +0000 http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/06/25/rumour-microsoft-to-allow-third-party-hardware-to-play-360-games/#comment-15768 Kotaku's mock-up is exactly what I want my consoles to look like. Quite why nobody's caught on to that idea yet, I have no idea. Kotaku’s mock-up is exactly what I want my consoles to look like. Quite why nobody’s caught on to that idea yet, I have no idea.

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